Q: What is the import of temple consecration on January 22, 2024 at Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh state of India?
A: A pro BJP professor had the following conversation on his Facebook wall.
Title of the Post : Finally the Indian mind has been decolonized
Here are some of the comments.
What did I miss?
Brajesh Choudhary
Mary Anne Cummings
a Hindu temple at the birth place of Lord Ram was vandalised in 1528 by
Mughal invader Babar. Today on the same spot after 496 years a grand
temple was consecrated with an idol of 5 year lord Ram by the Prime
minister of india. For the first time in last 1000 years we could reclaim our temple.
Robin Erbacher
Thank
you for the background Brajesh. I also heard in the story that a Mosque
that was built on top had stood there for hundreds of years but torn
down by crowds 30 years ago, leading to sectarian violence. Then this
new temple has been partially built and consecrated today. No idea if I got that right but that’s what I thought I heard (NPR)
Brajesh Choudhary
Robin Erbacher
yes there was a disused mosque there on that site. That mosque was
built by Mir Baki a general of Babur, the first ruler of Mughal dynasty
after destroying the temple at the birthplace of Rama in 1528. 1n 1992
on 6th December the disused mosque was pulled down
by Hindus. The courts of india heard the case for almost 150 years from
British days till 2019. In 2019, a constitution bench of the the Supreme
Court of india gave a 5-0 verdict that there was ample proof that under
the mosque if any structure existed it was a temple. The disputed land
was given to Hindus and the Muslims were given 5 acres of land elsewhere
just to soothe their feelings.
The
Muslims have destroyed about 40000 temples in india. When you go to
Indian temples and archeological sites and see broken hands, legs, face
disfigured of the statues, all of them were largely done by Muslims
because they don’t approve of idolatry. Robin, I hope you saw that at
Elephanta when you were in Bombay.
Robin Erbacher
Mani Tripathi it was a brief story. They may have had it right, I was distracted a bit.
Maripat Abu Adil
Brajesh Choudhary
The Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) excavated the Ram Babri
Mosque site at the direction of the Lucknow Bench of the Allahabad High
Court in Uttar Pradesh in 2003. When the thick report came out Professor
Irfan Habib reviewed it in a talk at the Institute
of Objective Studies at Aligarh (not related to AMU). I was present in
the talk. There was no evidence of the Mosque being built at the sight
of a temple.
Brajesh Choudhary
Maripat Abu Adil
Let’s not quote Irfan Habib the Islamist professor. The mosque was
called masjid janmsthan. It was built in 1528 by demolishing the temple.
The Supreme Court said that there was definitely a temple till 12th
century and the remains under the temple were all
of Sanatan culture and not Islamic. The birthplace was decided by the SC
based on Skanda Puram which is mentioned in the report nearly 20 times.
Please don’t quote selectively and never quote that charlatan if a
historian Irfan Habib.
Brajesh Choudhary
Maripat Abu Adil if you need the SC report, please send me your email. I will be happy to send you the pdf file.
Maripat Abu Adil
Brajesh Choudhary
It is well known that Professor Irfan Habib is Marxist historiographer.
People have differences with Marxist intellectuals but no serious
person has ever accused them of being charlatans. Intellectuals with
Saffron bent of mind are very biased about social,
cultural and political issues. Hence their words about any one else
apart from their own ilk carries no weight. Finally it is in public
knowledge that the Supreme Court gave away the Masjid land in deference
to the sentiments of the majority community. This is what your foreign
FB friends should know.
Brajesh Choudhary
Maripat Abu Adil
no you are wrong. The land was given based on birth place of Lord Rama
based on Skanda Puran. Please don’t try to wordsmith. Read the report.
If you need it, just send your email and I will send the SC judgement.
Maripat Abu Adil
Brajesh Choudhary
Is it not appeasement of majority community on part of the Honourable
Supreme Court of India to give Masjid land for the construction of
temple on the basis of Skand Puran?
Brajesh Choudhary
Maripat Abu Adil
Sir if you don’t know the culture of this country it is not my problem.
India didn’t become a country in 1947, it has existed for millennia.
The Hindu scriptures tell the story of india that existed prior to
Muslim invasion and domination. Skanda Puran based
information was just one part of information based on which SC gave its
judgement. The other was ASI report that if there ever existed a
structure under that so called mosque called Babri masjid it always was a
temple. The history has recorded that Mir Baqi general of Babur
demolished the temple in 1528. The mosque has been always called Masjid
Janmsthan. Sir how much proof you need? Why you take pride in a
structure which reflected Hindu humiliation and subjugation? I don’t
understand.
One
more fact. You know that Babur had a toy boy lover called Babri. He
named that mosque on the name of his boy lover. Do you really want that?
Maripat think about it.
Maripat Abu Adil
Brajesh Choudhary
We know the culture of this country. The normal historical process
brought India under Muslim rule. If it was subjugation that can be
debated. Humiliation it was not. If it was humiliation then Man Singh
and Birbal would not be with Akbar and Hakim Khan
Sur with Maharana Pratap. But let us stick to Babri Masjid. Since the
land was given to the majority community on the basis of Skand Puran
then it was appeasement of the majority community.
Brajesh Choudhary
Maripat Abu Adil
you have your freedom to believe. The land was given on historical
facts one of which was Skanda Puran too but if you want to negate
historical facts it is your choice.
Maripat Abu Adil
Brajesh Choudhary
No brother historicity is not decided on the basis of scriptures but
archeology and the answer from that criterion is that there was no
temple below the Mosque.
Brajesh Choudhary
Maripat Abu Adil
the remains under the mosque was not Islamic but Hindu. That’s also
true. So how a mosque came on that. If you want still to believe in
Babur and Mir Baqi, I can’t help. Carry on. You have freedom to believe.
Maripat Abu Adil
Brajesh Choudhary
Now my brother I suppose your foreign friends will have my point of
view too and it is up to them to believe whom so ever they want to.
Brajesh Choudhary :
Maripat Abu Adil
sure you can write your point of view. If I was worried with your views
and what my foreign friends will think then I would have deleted your
response but it is the tolerance in me that accepts all views but the
truth of Islamic violence, barbarity and dehumanisation of Hindus in
india or parts of india for 800 years can’t be negated. Its written all
over india in its broken temples, burnt university, destroyed statues.
It’s so sad that today’s Indian Muslims who have nothing to do with the
invaders except that their forefathers changed their religion either out
of fear or to seek favour still believe in those barbarians. That’s the
biggest tragedy of modern India. And I am sad that you are one of them.